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rick perry says he can't be bought for $5,000. he was lying about that in that we have specific records indicating that merck gave him directly a lot more than $5,000. in fact, gave him $6,000, then $16,000, then $7,500. the number perry made up as the number that you can't buy me for that merck supposedly gave him is actually a much higher number. he's leaving the question sitting there. how much can he be bought for? >> it's pretty funny because if you talk to lobbyists at the texas capitol right now, the going rate, everybody says before you even get into a conversation with his officers and staff, is about $200,000. he's right. he's a bit pricier than $5,000. it's also considerably ironic that this guy runs around saying that he wants to make government as inconsequential in our lives as possible. but to benefit his friend, mike toomey, he's willing to insert government into the lives of young women, age 11 and 12, and force them and their families to get a vaccine. this is the way it's been in texas under rick perry, lawrence
rick perry says he can't be bought for $5,000. he was lying about that in that we have specific records indicating that merck gave him directly a lot more than $5,000. in fact, gave him $6,000, then $16,000, then $7,500. the number perry made up as the number that you can't buy me for that merck supposedly gave him is actually a much higher number. he's leaving the question sitting there. how much can he be bought for? >> it's pretty funny because if you talk to lobbyists at the texas...
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one would seem to run counter to what rick perry was saying, but rick perry did certainly hit upon something. there is problems with social security. look at this number right here. are there problems with social security? and here, major changes, are they needed? 55% say, yes. that is the case. of course, this is all tied in to one thing. the economy, ali. >> and this is -- this is interesting, because rick perry kind of made this an issue. social security's sort of a back burner concern to a lot of people. it's tied to our debt and deficit concerns but he's put this in the forefront. does this help him ultimately or not that these polls show not everybody believes his characterization of it? >> could be potentially a devastating issue in the general election. republican versus democrat. right now in the primary, it's not hurting him. in fact at the debate, that wasn't the big issue. we saw social security, up to last night, for rick perry now it's about mandates he has to deal with and illegal immigration. >> we'll be talking a lot more about it. thank, mark preston. back to christine. >>
one would seem to run counter to what rick perry was saying, but rick perry did certainly hit upon something. there is problems with social security. look at this number right here. are there problems with social security? and here, major changes, are they needed? 55% say, yes. that is the case. of course, this is all tied in to one thing. the economy, ali. >> and this is -- this is interesting, because rick perry kind of made this an issue. social security's sort of a back burner concern...
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rick perry called social security a ponzi scheme. romney and perry went head to head each accusing of scaring the seniors. back live, john king host of john king, usa, david gergen and the chief political analyst -- eric eric son of red state.com and paul la gala. ari fleischer. and roland martin. i don't know how many folks we have. i lost count. we just talked to john king. john, there's one particular exchange on social security between rick perry and mitt romney that got a lot of people's attention. we heard a bit of it before. i want to play the extended version right now. >> but the question is, do you still believe that social security should be ended as a federal program as you did six months ago when your book came out and return to the states or do you want to retreat from that? >> i think we ought to have a conversation -- >> we're having that right now. we're running for president. >> are there ways to move the states into social security, for state employees or retirees? we did in the state of texas in the 1980s. i think
rick perry called social security a ponzi scheme. romney and perry went head to head each accusing of scaring the seniors. back live, john king host of john king, usa, david gergen and the chief political analyst -- eric eric son of red state.com and paul la gala. ari fleischer. and roland martin. i don't know how many folks we have. i lost count. we just talked to john king. john, there's one particular exchange on social security between rick perry and mitt romney that got a lot of people's...
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if no republican candidate can stop rick perry, might the author, rick perry, stop rick perry? joining me now, co-author of politico's article today about this book, senior writer maggie haberman, thanks for joining me tonight, maggie. >> thanks for having me. >>> perry keeps getting caught in the pages of his own book. today, i did, just when i sat down at this table before the show, i flipped it open randomly to any page, because i believe i can find something nutty on any page. i landed on page 41. i promise you, i swear, and it says -- "this leads me to the great milestone on the road to surfdom, the passage of the 16th amendment." what's he talking about there, and when is it coming? >> it's going to come if we don't take all of these things back and revert to federalism, according to this book. i think this book is a tremendous potential problem for him in the general election, as you said, it's also a problem in certain primary areas. in florida, as you noted, this is not a good thing. seniors get alarmed about a change to social security. they do not want to hear it com
if no republican candidate can stop rick perry, might the author, rick perry, stop rick perry? joining me now, co-author of politico's article today about this book, senior writer maggie haberman, thanks for joining me tonight, maggie. >> thanks for having me. >>> perry keeps getting caught in the pages of his own book. today, i did, just when i sat down at this table before the show, i flipped it open randomly to any page, because i believe i can find something nutty on any...
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perry worries gop. rick perry, beginning of the end? here is a talking points memo are the headline running with rick. they turn on perry after the debate and bill crystal wrote a special editorial with the headline yikes. no front-runner in a presidential field has ever had as weak a showing as rick perry. it's as close to a disqualifying two hours for him. thank you for joining us so much. >> thank you for having me. >> among republicans, that's the target audience through next spring. how bad did rick perry do? >> he had a tough night. it's difficult to say, it's a difficult night for perry. more than that, he created an opening for governor romney with 3500 republican activists gathered in orlando. this is a straw ballot that romney declined to participate in. there's been an opening created. you have to remember, we are very early. at this point, rudy giuliani was the darling of the media and leading in the polls. things can change quickly. >> politics gets more advanced every four years, things move faster. rudy giuliani was the l
perry worries gop. rick perry, beginning of the end? here is a talking points memo are the headline running with rick. they turn on perry after the debate and bill crystal wrote a special editorial with the headline yikes. no front-runner in a presidential field has ever had as weak a showing as rick perry. it's as close to a disqualifying two hours for him. thank you for joining us so much. >> thank you for having me. >> among republicans, that's the target audience through next...
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so they are looking at rick perry and right now, rick perry's biggest competitor is rick perry. because he's got to introduce himself to the american people. he's using these debates to do so. and so, republicans and the rest of mer car looking at him and trying to figure out just who he is. so far, republicans like what they see. >> now rick perry seems, gloria, to have backed away from his long time critique of social security. he called in his book "fed up", calling it a ponzi scheme. but it looks like mitt romney will try to hammer him on it tonight. what does mitt romney try to do to chip away at rick perry. are romney people shocked at rick perry's rocket rise to the top? >> well, what rick perry did today, in a piece in usa today's kind of nuance, brooke, he didn't quite back way from it, but he said we need to reform it. not kill it. we need it reform it for younger voters. i would argue that's a little bit avenuance shift. but of doesn't really matter because mitt romney and perhaps michele bachmann are going to, not chip away at him, they are going to hammer away at hi
so they are looking at rick perry and right now, rick perry's biggest competitor is rick perry. because he's got to introduce himself to the american people. he's using these debates to do so. and so, republicans and the rest of mer car looking at him and trying to figure out just who he is. so far, republicans like what they see. >> now rick perry seems, gloria, to have backed away from his long time critique of social security. he called in his book "fed up", calling it a...
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this is a catch rick perry night. right now, these cnn numbers, which i think are really important numbers, are saying it is not a two-man race that rick perry is pulling way from the field. we will see how that evolves over the month. once he is in the spotlight but right now rick perry is the man it catch. >> you know this well, james, these are national numbers for republicans. >> right. >> not iowa, not new hampshire and not south carolina. not florida. national numbers. if you believe the national numbers, alex, you remember rudy giuliani would have been president of the united states. hillary clinton would have been president of the united states. james, good ahead. >> there is something to this. our numbers show us as do the other good polls that are out there. and you know, he got in and went right into the league. and is staying there. and a lot of the, you know, people on cable television are editorial writers, thought that rm knee had such a good first but they aren't the ones that nominate the republicans.
this is a catch rick perry night. right now, these cnn numbers, which i think are really important numbers, are saying it is not a two-man race that rick perry is pulling way from the field. we will see how that evolves over the month. once he is in the spotlight but right now rick perry is the man it catch. >> you know this well, james, these are national numbers for republicans. >> right. >> not iowa, not new hampshire and not south carolina. not florida. national numbers....
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we've seen rick perry talk about ben bernanke. we've heard from ron paul about getting rid of the federal reserve and the gold standard. we've talked around a lot of things that don't have anything to do with jobs. how do you refocus everybody's energy into jobs? >> well, i think that, you know, these candidates go out and talk about social issues, foreign policy and other things we do not focus on. we are focused on the fiscal issues. when people go to the poll, that's what they're voting on. it is about getting americans back to work, paying down our debt and deficit. having a balanced budget. washington should live with their means just like small families and business shos live with their means. that's what we'll be focused on and if the candidates are smart they'll come here and tell us their ideas and solutions to create an environment where businesses will create jobs instead of cisco systems sitting on a $2 billion surplus and cutting 50% of their workforce. >> we saw jon huntsman come out with a jobs plan. mitt romney com
we've seen rick perry talk about ben bernanke. we've heard from ron paul about getting rid of the federal reserve and the gold standard. we've talked around a lot of things that don't have anything to do with jobs. how do you refocus everybody's energy into jobs? >> well, i think that, you know, these candidates go out and talk about social issues, foreign policy and other things we do not focus on. we are focused on the fiscal issues. when people go to the poll, that's what they're...
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i think right now the idea of rick perry is polling very well. better than perhaps rick perry himself will do as michael just referred to. once people get to know him they may not like him as much. but it's certainly clear that the candidate who's in the lead of the republican primaries until voting day will be whoever wins the "i feel your anger" contest. we're talking empathy. the republicans are mad as hell. they hate barack obama. they hate the federal government, and they want someone to reflect that. that's why michele bachmann looked so attractive not so long ago, but questions about her electability. now, rick perry has come in and lassoed up support without people knowing much about him or even reading his book. >> yeah. the problem with romney is he has a voice that's so st. paul, so prep school. you're laughing already, michael. that's why i like you. reminds me of my friend dr. bob arnott. another extremely well educated, intelligent guy, that wonderful el cougs that doesn't seem to have the passion of the working stiff. >> you're abs
i think right now the idea of rick perry is polling very well. better than perhaps rick perry himself will do as michael just referred to. once people get to know him they may not like him as much. but it's certainly clear that the candidate who's in the lead of the republican primaries until voting day will be whoever wins the "i feel your anger" contest. we're talking empathy. the republicans are mad as hell. they hate barack obama. they hate the federal government, and they want...
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is rick perry going to choose somebody else. what else will come out about rick perry's book. romney might not have to do that much in terms of strategy with dealing with perry. >> michelle is exactly right. mitt romney has basically won every debate he's come in, or come in second. he's doing very well, running behind perry right, but perry will be gone after by michele bachmann and by ron paul as well. they're going to have a battle. what romney should do, he should be prepared, about el what he is, personal, nice guy, strong leader, but be ready to throw a punch in perry comes at him. >> absolutely. >> last person, michele bachmann, i mentioned her a moment ago by accident. michelle bernard, is she out of the race? these two guys seem to have grabbed the lead. >> i think we will, from now throughout the rest of the year, for bachmann, a lot of it will depend on, will sarah palin enter the race or not? if she enters, we'll see them battling out for the tea party vote. i think if sarah palin enters the race, michele bachmann is out. she's got to get her mojo back. if rick per
is rick perry going to choose somebody else. what else will come out about rick perry's book. romney might not have to do that much in terms of strategy with dealing with perry. >> michelle is exactly right. mitt romney has basically won every debate he's come in, or come in second. he's doing very well, running behind perry right, but perry will be gone after by michele bachmann and by ron paul as well. they're going to have a battle. what romney should do, he should be prepared, about...
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>> i think president rick perry -- governor rick perry, let's not get ahead of ourselves. he deserves credit for bringing up the issue of entitlement reform. he made it very clear that he wants to protect social security for seniors. he also made the point that the current structure is not sustainable. since 1982, social security took in more than it paid out, but that trust fund will not be there, it will be broke. we have to protect social security for the seniors already in that war are nearing retirement. we'll also have to preserve social security for the younger workers for whom it will not be there unless we take action. i want to honor president reagan for not criticizing fellow republicans. i will say this. i do not think any republican candidate should the engage in the same kind of negative political attacks from do -- that we would expect from the political party. they are brave about talking about in, reform. we see those same types of attacks over and over again. i am not here to criticize an individual republican candidate. i am endorsing rick perry and supp
>> i think president rick perry -- governor rick perry, let's not get ahead of ourselves. he deserves credit for bringing up the issue of entitlement reform. he made it very clear that he wants to protect social security for seniors. he also made the point that the current structure is not sustainable. since 1982, social security took in more than it paid out, but that trust fund will not be there, it will be broke. we have to protect social security for the seniors already in that war...
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and you show rick perry falling there. so i think the numbers in florida, lawrence, are an indication of what we're seeing at the national level, and we'll see in the debates going forward how rick perry continues to stack up. but for sure this is going to become an increasingly big part of mitt romney's campaign so long as we see numbers like that. >> does rick perry have to find a way to back off, to distance himself from his past statements on social security? >> i think those statements on social security, there's a strong case to be made that they render him unelectable. and i think there's a strong case to be made that his statements on social security are enormously problematic in a republican primary. if you look at the migration into south carolina, the coastal areas, and horry county among northeastern retirees, and obviously you look at the retiree population in the state of florida, many of whom will be voting and participating in a republican primary, a debate about social security as opposed to the republican
and you show rick perry falling there. so i think the numbers in florida, lawrence, are an indication of what we're seeing at the national level, and we'll see in the debates going forward how rick perry continues to stack up. but for sure this is going to become an increasingly big part of mitt romney's campaign so long as we see numbers like that. >> does rick perry have to find a way to back off, to distance himself from his past statements on social security? >> i think those...
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rick perry clearly does not. and he needs to be on an extremely steep learning curve because basically the next -- of course, there are a million republican debates, but in the next debate or so, he had better perform, you know, with a lot more skill and verbal dexterity than he has up till now or i think that we're going to see this front-runner status really start to come down. people -- this immigration issue, especially, is really going to hurt perry and it is, as chris hayes observed, in my opinion, it's an issue, perry is right. it's certainly a position that's highly unpopular with the republican base. and that plus his fumble mouthedness might seal his doom. >> it doesn't look like there are any points to be scored by being right in this republican primary. "washington post" columnist eugene robinrobinson. thanks for joining me tonight. >> great. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >>> coming up, we take a look at the republican myth that president obama is the worst thing that ever happened to small busin
rick perry clearly does not. and he needs to be on an extremely steep learning curve because basically the next -- of course, there are a million republican debates, but in the next debate or so, he had better perform, you know, with a lot more skill and verbal dexterity than he has up till now or i think that we're going to see this front-runner status really start to come down. people -- this immigration issue, especially, is really going to hurt perry and it is, as chris hayes observed, in...
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we want you to vote for rick perry too. but not their rick perry, our rick perry. on august 13th write in rick perry, that's perry with an as q as for america, with an "a" for iowa,-- that's right. (cheers and applause) i'll join you. i'll join you. folks, i want every one in the iowa nation to go to the ames straw poll this saturday, going to be a beautiful day. there's food, there's booze. and write in rick perry with an "a" why "a" because there's no "e" in team. and this evening-- (laughter) >> and this evening at 1700 hours we struck again with our second ad in the greater des moines metropolitan area. jimmy? >> iowa, a land of good people who can make up their own minds. but outside groups like jobs for iowa superpac are trying to pander to iowans with pro perry ads featuring cheap cornography. >> just so you will vote for rick perry at the ames straw poll. >> but americans for a better tomorrow tomorrow believe that iowans deserve better. and we're going to give it to you. >> oh way. on august 13th. write in rick perry. that's perry with an a for america, wi
we want you to vote for rick perry too. but not their rick perry, our rick perry. on august 13th write in rick perry, that's perry with an as q as for america, with an "a" for iowa,-- that's right. (cheers and applause) i'll join you. i'll join you. folks, i want every one in the iowa nation to go to the ames straw poll this saturday, going to be a beautiful day. there's food, there's booze. and write in rick perry with an "a" why "a" because there's no...
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is rallying around rick perry. >> no way rick perry can win a general election, no way. >> and sarah palin makes her big announcement to the tea party, announcing nothing. >> and unless and until fox drops her from her contract, i will not believe she's running for president. >> right on, better late than never. >>> good evening from new york. with still 14 months left in the 2012 presidential campaign, a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows president obama with now the lowest approval rating of his presidency, 44% approve of the job the president is doing, 51% disapprove. though the president's approval rating is now the lowest of his presidency, it has not dropped significantly over his last 21 months in office, according to the nbc/"wall street journal" polling. the approval rating first dropped below 50% in december 2009. it was at 47%, within the margin of error of his approval rating this month. since then, the president's approval rating has dipped to 45% four times. despite the jobs crisis, a controversial health care bill, the deep water horizon disaster, midterm electio
is rallying around rick perry. >> no way rick perry can win a general election, no way. >> and sarah palin makes her big announcement to the tea party, announcing nothing. >> and unless and until fox drops her from her contract, i will not believe she's running for president. >> right on, better late than never. >>> good evening from new york. with still 14 months left in the 2012 presidential campaign, a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows...
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>> mitt romney and rick perry kicking it up a notch. >> mitt romney and rick perry went at it. >> mitt romney and rick perry go face to face. >> it was nothing but fire. >> it was exactly the thing you thought it would be. [ laughter ] there's only two explanations how that could have happened. one four months before any vote is cast. you decide the nomination is down to romney and perry. frame the debate by pitting the two against each other or your precogs. i'll let the audience at home decide. [ laughter ] >> governor romney, your private sector experience as governor perry's strategist recently put it consisted of being quote a buy out specialist. your response to that? >> governor perry you clearly don't like the massachusetts plan as an example for other states. >> governor perry a 30 second rebuttal. >> governor -- >> governor perry he said your state is filled with steers and queers, feel free to answer in the form of punching. [ laughter ] my favorite moment of debate came from niece news and their -- nbc news and their decision to do. this i want to introduce another colleagu
>> mitt romney and rick perry kicking it up a notch. >> mitt romney and rick perry went at it. >> mitt romney and rick perry go face to face. >> it was nothing but fire. >> it was exactly the thing you thought it would be. [ laughter ] there's only two explanations how that could have happened. one four months before any vote is cast. you decide the nomination is down to romney and perry. frame the debate by pitting the two against each other or your precogs. i'll...
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some of these numbers for rick perry are just, we're curious about you, rick perry. we really want to know. so that's -- >> david, i think a part of this, we don't like to talk too much about it but i'll do it darn it. part of this may be southern conservatives, christian conservatives, people in the religious right, who have been shopping around looking for a candidate like them and romney isn't like them. he is a member of the lds church, obviously a northeastern guy, harvard guy, st. paul's guy, whatever, went to one of those schools up there and he is not one of them. isn't it as simple as geography if you look at it that way? >> in part. there are some very influential republicans back in 2008 who felt that mitt romney would have a mormon problem particularly in the south among christian conservative voters. he's going to put that to the test. it is i think very difficult to poll for that. very difficult to know about that. but i wanted to add another element too which is i think there are some shades of 2004 here as well. when you think about the candidacy of s
some of these numbers for rick perry are just, we're curious about you, rick perry. we really want to know. so that's -- >> david, i think a part of this, we don't like to talk too much about it but i'll do it darn it. part of this may be southern conservatives, christian conservatives, people in the religious right, who have been shopping around looking for a candidate like them and romney isn't like them. he is a member of the lds church, obviously a northeastern guy, harvard guy, st....
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public office has been awfully good to rick perry. that may become a thread that mrs. bachman or others that are trying to get back in this race may begin to adopt. >> we're going to have more from all our panelists coming up. we're also going to play the one time front-runner rick perry was booed tonight, and a look at how tonight's debate may have shuffled the playing field. who's up, who's down, and who may be dropping out next. ♪ been torn apart ♪ got so many scratches and scars ♪ ♪ maybe time can mend us together again ♪ ♪ it's not what we've done but how far we've come ♪ ♪ i know that we will recover [ male announcer ] here when you need us most. ♪ i know that we will recover or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's not just good for business -- it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities, so we're helping them with advice from local business experts and extending $18 billion in credit last year. that's how we're helpi
public office has been awfully good to rick perry. that may become a thread that mrs. bachman or others that are trying to get back in this race may begin to adopt. >> we're going to have more from all our panelists coming up. we're also going to play the one time front-runner rick perry was booed tonight, and a look at how tonight's debate may have shuffled the playing field. who's up, who's down, and who may be dropping out next. ♪ been torn apart ♪ got so many scratches and scars...
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public office has been awfully good to rick perry. that may become a thread that mrs. bachman or others that are trying to get back in this race may begin to adopt. >> we're going to have more from all our panelists coming up. we're also going to play the one time front-runner rick perry was booed tonight, and a look at how tonight's debate may have shuffled the playing field. who's up, who's down, and who may be dropping out next. mispers about natural gas vehicles. more of the vehicles that fuel our lives use clean american natural gas today. it costs about 40 percent less than gasoline, so why aren't we using it even more? start a conversation about using more natural gas vehicles in your community. sir, can you hear me? just hold the bag. we need a portable x-ray, please! [ nurse ] i'm a nurse. i believe in the power of science and medicine. but i'm also human. and i believe in stacking the deck. when someone changes lanes without warning? or when you're distracted? when you're falling asleep at the wheel? do you know how you'll r
public office has been awfully good to rick perry. that may become a thread that mrs. bachman or others that are trying to get back in this race may begin to adopt. >> we're going to have more from all our panelists coming up. we're also going to play the one time front-runner rick perry was booed tonight, and a look at how tonight's debate may have shuffled the playing field. who's up, who's down, and who may be dropping out next. mispers about natural gas vehicles. more of the vehicles...
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also, rick perry is about to feel the heat. >> rick perry doubled spending in a decade. and this year rick perry's spending more money than the state takes in. >> that's not from the dnc. that's from michele bachmann's pac. the word is that sarah palin is about to go after perry as well. it's not easy being the front-runner. democrats and republicans alike are taking it to cantor to say that fema money for hurricane victims has to be offset by spending cuts elsewhere. and the new jobs report, no new jobs created. as we head into labor day weekend, some say let's remember who got us here. george w. bush and dick cheney. and finally, let me finish tonight with the catch 22 of the republican party. anyone conservative enough to be nominated might be unelectable. and anyone moderate enough to be elected can't get nominated. we start with the disrespect shown towards president obama. roger simon is chief political columnist for politico and ron reagan is a political commentator. i want to show you something from "the new york times" that ran today. it says this. american pres
also, rick perry is about to feel the heat. >> rick perry doubled spending in a decade. and this year rick perry's spending more money than the state takes in. >> that's not from the dnc. that's from michele bachmann's pac. the word is that sarah palin is about to go after perry as well. it's not easy being the front-runner. democrats and republicans alike are taking it to cantor to say that fema money for hurricane victims has to be offset by spending cuts elsewhere. and the new...
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among republican voters, rick perry is top. boy, this guy zoomed up to 38% favoring him right now as the nominee. look at this. mitt romney down to 23% and ron paul in third. michele bachmann dropping to fourth. compare that to just a month ago when rick perry was -- hardly anywhere while michele bachmann lost half her votes in the last month and trails ron paul. rp lapp the commanding lead among the tea party republicans and surprisingly tea party favorite michele bachmann comes in fourth among her own crowd. and perry wins along non-tea party republicans. winning in both groups. they do shed light on how the candidates are faring. let me go with you on that. john, that seems to me, is the field simply so volatile that a guy comes in not from washington, gubernatorial experience, governor of a big state, good jobs number. those tr the tickets? they don't know -- 21% of the people in the new poll gave him a favorable rating. 38% want him to be president. twice as many support him for the nomination who know him. >> clearly ther
among republican voters, rick perry is top. boy, this guy zoomed up to 38% favoring him right now as the nominee. look at this. mitt romney down to 23% and ron paul in third. michele bachmann dropping to fourth. compare that to just a month ago when rick perry was -- hardly anywhere while michele bachmann lost half her votes in the last month and trails ron paul. rp lapp the commanding lead among the tea party republicans and surprisingly tea party favorite michele bachmann comes in fourth...
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it's all eyes on rick perry. mitt romney trying to make himself the candidate, the re-establish himself as a front-runner. michele bachmann trying to reignite her campaign. she is placing far behind the pack. and of course the other candidates trying to make a real impression on a broad swath of voters. you can see it tonight, the tea party debate, live from tampa, florida. the site of the 2012 republican national convention. wolf blitzer will moderate. on at 8:00 p.m. eastern. back to new york with carol and christine. >> ok. we didn't get back to your talk back question. but i'm really sorry, but thank you. continue the conversation. facebook.com/americanmorning. >>> that will do it for us today. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. >>> thanks so much. just hours from now, eight presidential candidates will square off in tampa, florida. rick perry the front-runner and also the main target of his fellow republicans. and perry may have made the bull's-eye even bigger by attacking social security, a program considered
it's all eyes on rick perry. mitt romney trying to make himself the candidate, the re-establish himself as a front-runner. michele bachmann trying to reignite her campaign. she is placing far behind the pack. and of course the other candidates trying to make a real impression on a broad swath of voters. you can see it tonight, the tea party debate, live from tampa, florida. the site of the 2012 republican national convention. wolf blitzer will moderate. on at 8:00 p.m. eastern. back to new york...
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but that's not where rick perry went. he went and said that a position that most people in the republican party hold is heartless. >> thank you, it's great having you on. please come back. one of the young genius's i read off. >> i'll take it. >> up next, michele bachmann says no payment for government. this is like the old roosevelt thing. it won't cost anything if you vote for me. that fence i want -- my salary is free. how far is she going? who is going to pay her paycheck if we don't pay taxes. stick around. she belongs there, the side show. you're watching "hardball" on msnbc. i habe a cohd. yeah, i toog nyguil bud i'm stild stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't un-stuff your nose. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your stuffy nose. [ deep breath ] thank you! that's the cold truth! today i own 165 wendy's restaurants. and i get my financing from ge capital. but i also get stuff that goes way beyond banking. we not only lend peo
but that's not where rick perry went. he went and said that a position that most people in the republican party hold is heartless. >> thank you, it's great having you on. please come back. one of the young genius's i read off. >> i'll take it. >> up next, michele bachmann says no payment for government. this is like the old roosevelt thing. it won't cost anything if you vote for me. that fence i want -- my salary is free. how far is she going? who is going to pay her paycheck...
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rick perry over his head? charles, there are people over there is fiercely underwater. >> last time i checked, neither of those people is president of the united states. >> undoubtedly -- if sarah had it in 2008. >> you had so many people trying to obstruct, obstruct this president. if he walked on water, they would accuse him of not being able to swim. >> the democrat opposes a republican who is in the white house, that is opposition. if the republic of both the democrat in the white house, it is obstruction. explain the difference. >> beg your pardon? [laughter] >> charles. that is silly. it is not opposing him because of policies. before he had a chance to do anything. it was already declared that he would be a one-term president -- mitch mcconnell, but for the first year in office. >> we talked about the president's numbers, with not very good, but look at the numbers congress are getting. >> really bad. according to "the wall street journal" nbc poll, congress that a disapproval rating is 82%. this is ama
rick perry over his head? charles, there are people over there is fiercely underwater. >> last time i checked, neither of those people is president of the united states. >> undoubtedly -- if sarah had it in 2008. >> you had so many people trying to obstruct, obstruct this president. if he walked on water, they would accuse him of not being able to swim. >> the democrat opposes a republican who is in the white house, that is opposition. if the republic of both the...
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rick perry, mitt romney. mitt romney's been a guy that's been described as somebody that you're not sure if he's comfortable in his own skin. rick perry seems like, hey, i am who i am. >> one thing about mitt romney, i think mitt romney in private settings, sort of interesting, charming, engaging, in public not so much. i think perry feels like more comfortable in his skin. i think these guys spend too much time. i blame the candidates, because ultimately it's about the candidates, they spend too much time thinking about how they're coming in cost. and it's partly our fault. if he had said that thing, i wouldn't even see it. >> exactly. >> makes me blush. >> but can you imagine what they would have done -- >> but very quickly, it's a point that we all say we want authenticity and the minute a candidate is authentic, we all kill him. >> i know a little bit about that. >> oh, no. >> that's part of it. >> so washington folks can't handle these guys who really aren't comfortable with themselves like a rick perry
rick perry, mitt romney. mitt romney's been a guy that's been described as somebody that you're not sure if he's comfortable in his own skin. rick perry seems like, hey, i am who i am. >> one thing about mitt romney, i think mitt romney in private settings, sort of interesting, charming, engaging, in public not so much. i think perry feels like more comfortable in his skin. i think these guys spend too much time. i blame the candidates, because ultimately it's about the candidates, they...
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i still think it's easy to beat rick perry. thank you, pat buchanan, and if i can't push bachmann, i've got to push perry. >>> coming up, it wasn't just the establishment shirts like romney coming after perry last night, the skins got into the debate as well, hitting the texas governor from the right. he was getting battered. can perry take the punches and keep on fighting? you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> well, voters are actually voting today. they're heading to the polls today in a pair of special elections and house races in upstate, actually, in brooklyn, new york, and in nevada. as first read points out, democrats were expecting one to be a nail biter and the other to be a employblowout for them. but the problem for democrats, their candidates are about to be blown out in nevada and they could lose a close election in that usually safe district in brooklyn and queens, once held by anthony weiner. look for a double header loss tomorrow morning. we'll see. we'll be right back. i want to focus on innovation. but
i still think it's easy to beat rick perry. thank you, pat buchanan, and if i can't push bachmann, i've got to push perry. >>> coming up, it wasn't just the establishment shirts like romney coming after perry last night, the skins got into the debate as well, hitting the texas governor from the right. he was getting battered. can perry take the punches and keep on fighting? you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> well, voters are actually voting today. they're...
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we expect to be outraised by rick perry. his finance team has been talking about 400 bundlers that they have on board. there was a report yesterday in a dallas newspaper that they raised $20 million in the first three days of his announcement. we expect he'll do very well. he's the governor of the second largest state in the union. he is the chairman of the republican nors association, he's got a good deal of fund-raising experience. we expect him to do very well. >> i always find it interesting. campaigns will praise the other side when it comes to fund-raising expectations. ray sullivan, i want to move to immigration and give you a chance to react to something that chris christie said last night about immigration. here's what he said at the reagan library. >> ip every child who comes to new jersey to be educated. but i do not believe that for those people who came here illegally that we should be subsidizing with taxpayer money through in-state tuition. and let me be very clear from my perspective. that is not a heartless
we expect to be outraised by rick perry. his finance team has been talking about 400 bundlers that they have on board. there was a report yesterday in a dallas newspaper that they raised $20 million in the first three days of his announcement. we expect he'll do very well. he's the governor of the second largest state in the union. he is the chairman of the republican nors association, he's got a good deal of fund-raising experience. we expect him to do very well. >> i always find it...
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she had rick perry back on his heels. she took him across her knee, and spanked him hard last night. and he deserved it. i thought she was very, very good. >> all right. heidi and mike, always a pleasure to have you with us tonight. spirited debate on that. thanks a lot. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. tomorrow night, "the ed show" goes to toledo, ohio, and you're invited. we'll see you from the corner of south huron and washington tomorrow night with a live performance of "the ed show." hope you can join us if you're in the neighborhood. >>> playoffs. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. leading off tonight, fear factor. how scared of rick perry is the republican establishment? well, in one short month, perry shot to the top of the gop chart with tough texas talk about state's rights and saying the federal reserve chairman may be guilty of treason. it's raw meat for the base, but the party's grown-ups, if you will, desperate to beat president obama, are growing worried. perry's
she had rick perry back on his heels. she took him across her knee, and spanked him hard last night. and he deserved it. i thought she was very, very good. >> all right. heidi and mike, always a pleasure to have you with us tonight. spirited debate on that. thanks a lot. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. tomorrow night, "the ed show" goes to toledo, ohio, and you're invited. we'll see you from the corner of south huron and washington tomorrow night with a live...
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the other conference from rick perry. but i thought the important thing for the horse race, romney did it in a very well thought out, politically well thought out way. his best performance in terms of thinking out the politics of it and the way he could -- uchbl s >> you know what? we've been in this business so long. grab an issue, answer it with gut and feeling. the other, brilliantly handle the issue. he handled the issue. >> all the -- >> you see a guy out there handling an issue. they say he's not my guy. >> of course. >> playing a game here. i'm in the tea party and proud of it. i know they don't have membership cards. what a mickey mouse dhaumt was. it's not captain midnight's club. you don't have to have a card. it's a question whether you want to embrace -- are you part of those people out there or aren't you? he said i'm not weren't of them, although i embrace some of their views this is a time to draw a line -- >> why did he say it? >> he knows embracing the tea party is trouble for him in the general election.
the other conference from rick perry. but i thought the important thing for the horse race, romney did it in a very well thought out, politically well thought out way. his best performance in terms of thinking out the politics of it and the way he could -- uchbl s >> you know what? we've been in this business so long. grab an issue, answer it with gut and feeling. the other, brilliantly handle the issue. he handled the issue. >> all the -- >> you see a guy out there handling...
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you've seen mitt romney and rick perry. stylistically, they are so different, that's about as animated as mitt romney gets. rick perry, he's the cowboy, he's charismatic, he's shaking all hands. >> he connects. >> how do you close that gap if you're mitt romney? >> i think one of the -- >> the charisma gap. >> he's not even necessarily trying to be the charismatic, fire breathing kind of tea party guy. he was there on sunday in new hampshire in front of a tea party crowd. never even said the words tea party. >> in truth, regardless of what he says, we all three know this, mitt romney is not a natural tea party guy. he's an establishment politician, for better or worse. >> exactly. that's in some ways what he's running as. his whole campaign is all about being a ceo. the problem is that he doesn't necessarily connect with the tea party folks who are all about populace. >> the question is, you watched the 2010 election. this is a different republican party that you got elected to. you watched what happened. we saw people with
you've seen mitt romney and rick perry. stylistically, they are so different, that's about as animated as mitt romney gets. rick perry, he's the cowboy, he's charismatic, he's shaking all hands. >> he connects. >> how do you close that gap if you're mitt romney? >> i think one of the -- >> the charisma gap. >> he's not even necessarily trying to be the charismatic, fire breathing kind of tea party guy. he was there on sunday in new hampshire in front of a tea party...
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rick perry, 53% would consider voting for him. but 44% say no. summing up every single poll, every single one, tells the same story. barak obama losing support everywhere, except at nbc news. with just 13 1/2 months to the vote, situation for the president has now reached critical mass. that's a memo. top story tonight, the big fox news google debate on tap this evening from florida. joining us from washington, fox news analyst laura ingraham, author of the best seller "of thee i zing." what do you want to see at this debate? >> first thing i want to see is a blueprint, okay? i know that's asking a lot. but i think we've done the hpv thing. we're doing these got ya questions and they're important, but america is in a desperate state of decline, bill. you've been documenting this. i've been documenting this for years on my radio show. we are in a state of seemingly inexorable deterioration. we need these candidates to give us the specifics, how can america once again be in a position of dominance for as far as the eye can see? right now five years
rick perry, 53% would consider voting for him. but 44% say no. summing up every single poll, every single one, tells the same story. barak obama losing support everywhere, except at nbc news. with just 13 1/2 months to the vote, situation for the president has now reached critical mass. that's a memo. top story tonight, the big fox news google debate on tap this evening from florida. joining us from washington, fox news analyst laura ingraham, author of the best seller "of thee i...
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rick perry has to right his ship how? it does strick me romney is in this unenviable position where if he has one bad debate performance, everybody will pounce on him and rick perry has to not throw up on himself. >> he lowered the bar. one good debate. ronald reagan came out. >> george bush didn't have good debates either. >> i think it's silly -- i've read people writing rick perry off. >> that's ridiculous. >> that's way premature. i think he has to be much more substantive, much more serious and measured and thoughtful and drop some of the cowboy stuff. >> interesting, this has been a substance and style problem. here's perry on immigration. i want to talk about immigration versus health care. >> if you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been brought there, by no fault of their own, i don't think you have a heart. we need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. >> conservatives would be okay if he defended his pos
rick perry has to right his ship how? it does strick me romney is in this unenviable position where if he has one bad debate performance, everybody will pounce on him and rick perry has to not throw up on himself. >> he lowered the bar. one good debate. ronald reagan came out. >> george bush didn't have good debates either. >> i think it's silly -- i've read people writing rick perry off. >> that's ridiculous. >> that's way premature. i think he has to be much more...
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>> probably the spotlight was on rick perry. he had a couple shaky debate performances heading into last night's matchup. he struggled. he almost always starts off pretty strong in the clips that you just showed. pretty much happened at the beginning of the debate and some of perry's better moments in fact. as the debate wore on he wasn't as quick on his feet and didn't seem that prepared and he tried one line of attack accusing mitt romney of being a flip-flopper and it just fell flat. >> what about mitt romney? what did we learn from him? it seems with each debate mitt romney seems to be fairly unflappable in settings like these. >> it's a sign that it helps to have run for president before as mitt romney did just four years ago. he seems a lot more comfortable. a lot more polished than he did back then. so this is now -- he's participated in five debates. been five solid debate performances. in one striking departure from last cycle, last time around you had john mccain, mike huckabees all piling on mitt romney. this time aro
>> probably the spotlight was on rick perry. he had a couple shaky debate performances heading into last night's matchup. he struggled. he almost always starts off pretty strong in the clips that you just showed. pretty much happened at the beginning of the debate and some of perry's better moments in fact. as the debate wore on he wasn't as quick on his feet and didn't seem that prepared and he tried one line of attack accusing mitt romney of being a flip-flopper and it just fell flat....
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. >>> and also, rick perry is about to feel the heat. >> rick perry doubled spending in a a dick aid. and this year, rick perry's spending more money than he takes in. covering his deficits with record borrowing. >> that's not from the dnc. that's from michele bachmann's pac and word is that sarah palin is about to go after perry as well. it's not easy being a front-runner and eric cantor is getting it if all sides, democrats and republicans alike are taking it to cantor by insisting that fema money for hurricane irene victims has to be offset by spending cuts elsewhere. and no new jobs created, reminds everyone how tough times are. but the weekend, some say let's remember who got us here. the two guys who have been on tv much of the week, george w. bush and dick cheney. >>> and let me finish tonight with the catch-22 of the republican party. anyone conservative enough to be nominated might be unelectable and anyone moderate enough to be elected might not get nominated. we start with the disrespect shown towards president obama. roger simon is chief analyst for politico and ron reagan
. >>> and also, rick perry is about to feel the heat. >> rick perry doubled spending in a a dick aid. and this year, rick perry's spending more money than he takes in. covering his deficits with record borrowing. >> that's not from the dnc. that's from michele bachmann's pac and word is that sarah palin is about to go after perry as well. it's not easy being a front-runner and eric cantor is getting it if all sides, democrats and republicans alike are taking it to cantor by...
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the trouble with rick perry in public he's not the rick perry that we see in private. the rick perry we see with that aggie ring standing there, a military man, is one tough customer, the first impression you get is, not only does he look tough, he is tough. what happens when you put him in the public arena, he becomes an inhibited person, suppressing all of that arrogance because he he thinks that it wasn't necessary and this makes him constricted performance. >> paul: overhandled by the political advisors stuffing him with this or that. >> possibly. you can't conceal who you really are and here he is, being this nice guy, smiling over these assaults on him. whereas when you confront him at some, across some table, you don't want a fight with this guy. >> what about mitt romney? he certainly is practiced as jason says. >> he's very practiced. i was put off by his performance on the substance and opening remark, he was responding nominally to the question about our he had t.o. yal on jobs, at the end of it he said we have to crack down on china's trade practices. and h
the trouble with rick perry in public he's not the rick perry that we see in private. the rick perry we see with that aggie ring standing there, a military man, is one tough customer, the first impression you get is, not only does he look tough, he is tough. what happens when you put him in the public arena, he becomes an inhibited person, suppressing all of that arrogance because he he thinks that it wasn't necessary and this makes him constricted performance. >> paul: overhandled by the...
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perry, among the hidden text she had hidden on her website was the phrase, rick perry gay. she actually had rick perry gay up on the hidden text of her website twice. when asked by the "austin american-statesman" about this the hutchison campaign said they had not done it on purpose, they said it was a computer generated result of the fact a lot of people were searching the phrase rick perry gay. even in saying they would make sure that hidden text was going to be taken down right away, the campaign made sure to get this quote into the newspaper. listen to this. "we did not know these offensive word associations were being searched for by hundreds of thousands of texans every day nor do we condone the computer generated existence on our website. they will be removed promptly." in other words, we're not saying rick perry is gay, we would never say that. we find the whole idea offensive. apparently a lot of people want to know. it is not unheard of for candidates to launch whisper campaigns and insinuate their opponents are gay. it happened in 1994 when george w. bush ran suc
perry, among the hidden text she had hidden on her website was the phrase, rick perry gay. she actually had rick perry gay up on the hidden text of her website twice. when asked by the "austin american-statesman" about this the hutchison campaign said they had not done it on purpose, they said it was a computer generated result of the fact a lot of people were searching the phrase rick perry gay. even in saying they would make sure that hidden text was going to be taken down right...
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. >> rick perry is in trouble. >> no question rick perry had a rough week. >> number ten, lost support from both the whack jobs and nut jobs. >> it's a ponzi scheme. >> the number one sign rick perry campaign is trouble, even michelle o'bachmann thinks he's nuts. >> all due respect, he's not up to primetime. >> it's like the republican primary is a season of "american idol" in reverse. >> i believe in science, revolution and climate change. >> the world is changing. >> republican base, meet me at camera three. have you ever considered the possibility that maybe your candidates aren't the problem, maybe it's you? >>> while president obama continued his jobs bill campaign in denver today, republicans were still looking for a 2012 presidential candidate. their hope for an alternative to front-runners rick perry and mitt romney and apparently now possible front-runner herman cain will be dashed tonight when new jersey governor christie fails to announce a bid for president in a speech at the reagan library in california. christie's brother, a republican fund-raiser, told a new jersey paper
. >> rick perry is in trouble. >> no question rick perry had a rough week. >> number ten, lost support from both the whack jobs and nut jobs. >> it's a ponzi scheme. >> the number one sign rick perry campaign is trouble, even michelle o'bachmann thinks he's nuts. >> all due respect, he's not up to primetime. >> it's like the republican primary is a season of "american idol" in reverse. >> i believe in science, revolution and climate...
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rick perry said he understands health care because his wife is a nurse. yeah, he also said he understands terrorism because he watched all eight seasons of "24." >> governor perry, question about texas, your state has executed 234 death row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times -- [ cheers and applause ] have you -- >> the biggest applause line of the night was the mere mention that rick perry had executed 234 people. holy [ bleep ].
rick perry said he understands health care because his wife is a nurse. yeah, he also said he understands terrorism because he watched all eight seasons of "24." >> governor perry, question about texas, your state has executed 234 death row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times -- [ cheers and applause ] have you -- >> the biggest applause line of the night was the mere mention that rick perry had executed 234 people. holy [ bleep ].
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eight republican hopefuls and the first debate for rick perry. the new front runner can he take a punch? will romney go after him? >> i haven't spoken about govern perry. what i have said is that career politicians don't know what it takes to get this economy going again. and you know, evidence number one is what's going onin washington, d.c. >>> and can michele bachmann stop her rapid slide? this hour candidate jon huntsman is with us from the debate site in california. >>> plus, former 2012 candidate tim pawlenty finally gets the attention he's been wanting on "steven colbert." >> why did you drop autoafter ames? >> i was out of money. and i came in third place behind michele bachmann and ron paul. i think that's enough for any one person to endure. [ applause ] >>> that was tim pawlenty as we haven't seen him before. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. tonight eight republicans will test ronald reagan's 1 19 commandment, thousand shall not speak ill about a fellow republican. in the run up to the debate the candidates are emphasi
eight republican hopefuls and the first debate for rick perry. the new front runner can he take a punch? will romney go after him? >> i haven't spoken about govern perry. what i have said is that career politicians don't know what it takes to get this economy going again. and you know, evidence number one is what's going onin washington, d.c. >>> and can michele bachmann stop her rapid slide? this hour candidate jon huntsman is with us from the debate site in california....
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they want somebody to slow rick perry down. they don't want to yet to be mitt romney. >> do they look good, chuck todd suggested to me, that if michele bachmann, if she goes after him, does that make romney look all the weaker that he didn't do it? >> i don't know, not necessarily. they want -- they believe that rick perry is thin skinned. they believe that if he is asked enough tough questions by whom ever, whether the questioners here at the debate or other members of the panel or the other candidates, that he will not do what mark halprin says and what we think he needs to do, which is to be calm and in control. that will allow romney to not be the guy who created him. >> so not the perfect "hardball" guest. the one i wait months for. the one that loses it all right on television. >> if they could all pay to have you spend an hour with rick perry. >> a sparring partner. >>> does romney have to put his his fists tonight? >> i think perry will be physically literally on one side of the -- maybe given him a jab now and then. mi
they want somebody to slow rick perry down. they don't want to yet to be mitt romney. >> do they look good, chuck todd suggested to me, that if michele bachmann, if she goes after him, does that make romney look all the weaker that he didn't do it? >> i don't know, not necessarily. they want -- they believe that rick perry is thin skinned. they believe that if he is asked enough tough questions by whom ever, whether the questioners here at the debate or other members of the panel or...